Confused: Why they all needs Computer science graduation ?

Hi Sherif,

Do you wanna work in IT field with any language or with specific language?

Because I guess most big companies now will make Computer Science mandatory in the applicant as the number of Computer Science graduate increase every year.

Mohamed, I have some of my friends who is working in IT field without being graduated from Computer Science nor being graduated at all.

But all of them are working with PHP language.

So let me suggest some solutions:

1. If you have no problem learning and working with PHP I guess this will make you find job easily as no one of Computer Science graduated love to work using PHP.
2. You may join ITI and join whatever department you like and this will help you finding job easily.

Sherif, I wanna tell you something we (Me at least) didn't take any subject Like Java, or .NET only two programming language are given in my faculty FCI-CU which are C++ and Assembly so the idea behind asking for CS graduate is not the programing languages he knows only but the concept he studied in his faculty like Programming concepts, DataBase Concepts, .... which will make his/here job easier.

But in terms of PHP applications most app developed using PHP don't need this skills I can't deny that there is a great apps developed by php and also there are a great PHP developers but this is not the normal case.

So you may choose PHP as starting then you may switch.

I Hope this helps

Ali Abdel-Aziz Ali
Senior Software Engineer/ARPU+
www.aliabdelaziz.com

let me disagree with you Ali, I understood from your comment that you categorize programming languages as first class languages (Java, C++) for Software Engineers and second class languages (PHP) for others ! which doesn't make sense in reality, as the way one writes JAVA code is the same way he writes PHP code. The same methodologies, practices, algorithms, techniques may be applied in any development environment.

I think what you meant is the difference between programmer as a coder who just implements what is required from him and a real software developer who understands what he's doing and participates in all development activiteis that writing code is just one actvity among them. That's why good companies ask for concepts more than languages.

But these concepts is not confined to computer graduates only.., talent and skill play an important role in the scene in our career and in every career ever in the world. Every skill and wxperience can be acquired by practice and practical life is very diferent life in the campus, you'll see among your university colleagues one who got high grades but are not qualified to compete in the market and maybe they took a different career.
and on the other hand you'll see others from different academic backgrounds are more than successful.

I saw very successful examples in the software development career whom expirience will inspire you from civil engineers to phrmacy graduates and others who are working in very complex systems from NLP to kernel programming.

My conclusion is that it's all about practice, and my advice to Sherif is, don't be affected by the culture of "balad shehadat",just trust yourself and adjust your copmass, and as long as you enhance your skills by practice and prove your capabilities, you'll reserve your place in the open market values experience more than certifications.

Hi Sherif,

In fact I understand your enthusiasm and ambitious and it is not just you, there are many people has the same situation like you and during my practical life journey many colleagues and friends who have the same situation like you, have asked me the advice and a recipe of that.

For that I will try to think logically with you and take you through interesting analysis which will guide to the right decision and clarify things to you.

Let's start,

Please ask your self the following questions and reply me with your honest answers:

- Do you like programming as your hobby (Y/N)?

- What do you feel while you are writing code?

- Do you like mechanical engineering study (Y/N)?

- Why have you joined a mechanical engineering discipline (max five real reasons)?

- Why didn't you join a computer science discipline(max five real reasons)?

- Why don't you like working as a mechanical engineer(max five real reasons)?

- Why do you like working as a mechanical engineer(max five real reasons)?

- Why do you like working as a software developer (max five real reasons)?

- Why don't you like working as a software developer (max five real reasons)?

In case you started your career in programming,

- How do you see your self after 5 years, will you still have the same desire to write code?

Do you know that working in IT is not only writing code and software development?

- What's the next job you like to have after 3 years of development?

- After 10 years, will it be better for you to see your self as experienced mechanical engineer in reputable firm or a software developer, which career is better for you in the long term?

Carefully answer these questions and reply back, your answers will direct our next step in this analysis.

Best regards,

Aly Saleh